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- Thu Apr 23, 2020 10:24 am
- Forum: Switchboards
- Topic: Circuit Identification
- Replies: 20
- Views: 13320
Re: Circuit Identification
I think the key is in your final comment; WRT the wording being 'outgoing circuit" and not referring to "final subcircuits" - which would have limited the effects. WRT 2.9.4.3; I see the wiring between main switch and circuit protection devices as a outgoing circuit from the main switch; or WRT 2.9....
- Thu Apr 23, 2020 9:52 am
- Forum: Switchboards
- Topic: Number of Main Switches
- Replies: 22
- Views: 61655
Re: Number of Main Switches
That sort of error is very common;; the industry including lots of people who use words carelessly rather than as they are defined. Eg earth electrodes being called "pins", "stakes", "rods"; and just about every switch being called 'isolating" regardless of whether they actually provide isolation. O...
- Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:29 am
- Forum: Switchboards
- Topic: Number of Main Switches
- Replies: 22
- Views: 61655
Re: Number of Main Switches
yes if multiple switches are used, they must be properly labelled as to exactly what they control. Agree that for most domestic, there's no advantage (to user, which is what matters) from having separate switches compared to linked switches. And having been involved in the EWRB complaints process (l...
- Wed Apr 22, 2020 9:21 am
- Forum: Appliances
- Topic: Imported: Free standing oven and hob install
- Replies: 4
- Views: 4397
Re: Imported: Free standing oven and hob install
might be a flash new Forum, but still the same old fat "fongers"
- Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:49 pm
- Forum: Switchboards
- Topic: Number of Main Switches
- Replies: 22
- Views: 61655
Re: Number of Main Switches
There's no requirement for the various main switches that may be required, eg for controlled & uncontrolled loads, to be linked. For domestic multi-tariff supplies;, I would regard linking (or use of a multi-pole device) as best practice where it's practicable, but once you're past 3 tariffs it beco...
- Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:43 pm
- Forum: Protective Devices
- Topic: 2.5.7.2.3 Discrimination examples (b) and (c)
- Replies: 5
- Views: 3051
Re: 2.5.7.2.3 Discrimination examples (b) and (c)
The long form would be a detailed calculation based on the operating curve data for the particular devices. The short form lets us get on the the job using a 'deemed to comply"; regardless of whether it actually complies. The fact that the example doesn't quite match (by 1 A or 3.1%) doesn't invalid...
- Tue Apr 21, 2020 4:29 pm
- Forum: Appliances
- Topic: Imported: Free standing oven and hob install
- Replies: 4
- Views: 4397
Re: Imported: Free standing oven and hob install
Balderdash.
Wiring rules clearly allow for a reduction in CCC without an additional protective device in these circumstances.
Each branch is a foxed load, so need only be sized for that load.
Wiring rules clearly allow for a reduction in CCC without an additional protective device in these circumstances.
Each branch is a foxed load, so need only be sized for that load.
- Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:36 am
- Forum: Switchboards
- Topic: Main Switches being readily accessable
- Replies: 4
- Views: 2866
Re: Main Switches being readily accessable
2.3.3.3 (currently cited edition) requires ALL main switches to be readily accessible. This includes domestic. The ONLY Exception is for installations of a few specific types that are located on public land. So the issue is whether a typical domestic swbd door either as supplied ex-factory or for a ...
- Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:25 am
- Forum: Switchboards
- Topic: Circuit Identification
- Replies: 20
- Views: 13320
Re: Circuit Identification
"for the line side feed to RCDs or RCBOs, the clause doesn't apply."
I don't think that's true. I can see nothing that exempts these connections from being required to be identified.
I don't think that's true. I can see nothing that exempts these connections from being required to be identified.
- Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:21 am
- Forum: Protective Devices
- Topic: 2.5.7.2.3 Discrimination examples (b) and (c)
- Replies: 5
- Views: 3051
Re: 2.5.7.2.3 Discrimination examples (b) and (c)
They key to this apparent anomaly is the wording "deemed to be provided".
That means it doesn't matter whether the actual long-form calculation works, all that matters is the short-form "x2" calculation
That means it doesn't matter whether the actual long-form calculation works, all that matters is the short-form "x2" calculation
- Tue Apr 21, 2020 11:17 am
- Forum: Protective Devices
- Topic: Type S RCD Main Switch
- Replies: 10
- Views: 5158
Re: Type S RCD Main Switch
The only way to get reliable discrimination between RCDs is by having a time delay (ie upstream device is Type S). That's because RCDs do not limit the current, they only react to it; and the max trip times for any Type of RCD do not vary depending on residual current rating - an 100 mA Type A must ...
- Tue Apr 21, 2020 10:25 am
- Forum: Generators and Solar
- Topic: PEW and Solar
- Replies: 2
- Views: 2250
Re: PEW and Solar
The actual wording of the ELV Exception from being PEW [Schedule !, cause 2(b) & (c)] is not about the voltage of the array (or whstever) but about whether or not the ELV fittings are "associated with" a supply at above ELV. So a lawyer could argue that any PV array supplying an inverter for LV supp...
- Sat Apr 18, 2020 12:34 pm
- Forum: Switchboards
- Topic: Number of Main Switches
- Replies: 22
- Views: 61655
Re: Main Switches
safety services eg fire pumps, , lifts, etc 9see 7.3) must each have separate main switch. For outbuildings; if supply > 100A + has a switchboard, or if supplied by more than one submain [2.3.4] Back to domestic; each separate tenancy must have own main switch; though not necessarily within the tena...
- Fri Apr 17, 2020 2:07 pm
- Forum: Selection and Installation of Wiring Systems
- Topic: Parallel conductors 3.4.3
- Replies: 11
- Views: 5544
Re: Parallel conductors 3.4.3
I am not certain of the reason(s) for the restriction.
- Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:41 am
- Forum: Selection and Installation of Wiring Systems
- Topic: Parallel conductors 3.4.3
- Replies: 11
- Views: 5544
Re: Parallel conductors 3.4.3
Note that in 1.417 (2007+A1+A2), definition of "cable" includes "a single cable core";
and 1.4.19 "cable core" is any "conductor" with its insulation.
So any individual cable core within a multicore cable is itself a cable.
and 1.4.19 "cable core" is any "conductor" with its insulation.
So any individual cable core within a multicore cable is itself a cable.
- Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:08 am
- Forum: Standards and Legislation
- Topic: AS/NZS 3018
- Replies: 7
- Views: 3753
Re: AS/NZS 3018
"3018 has been discontinued;. Basically it was targetted at the domestic sector, on the basis that domestic work is simpler and those doing it don't need to have the entore book. But it was never much used in NZ; and with almost all Standards that we need being available "free" via EWRB there's no s...
- Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:52 am
- Forum: Selection and Installation of Wiring Systems
- Topic: Parallel conductors 3.4.3
- Replies: 11
- Views: 5544
Re: Parallel conductors 3.4.3
The conductors of a single multicore cable would be a group of single-core cables; so the way I read it parallelling 2.5s within a single multicore is forbidden, same as for multiple multicores. Reading it any other way is basically ignoring the underlying theory. That said, I believe this clause wo...
- Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:40 am
- Forum: Distribution, Networks & Metering
- Topic: Undergrounding of overhead lines
- Replies: 9
- Views: 8861
Re: Undergrounding of overhead lines
True there's a good chance an old MES will not meet ESR 113; so we should always be prepared for the upgrade. Also sometimes it may be that the alteration to the mains, eg shorter / larger conductors, may have an adverse effect on safety of the MES part of the installation; contrary to ESR 13. But m...
- Fri Apr 17, 2020 10:22 am
- Forum: Distribution, Networks & Metering
- Topic: Undergrounding of overhead lines
- Replies: 9
- Views: 8861
Re: Undergrounding of overhead lines
Technically it's not the Inspector who must check that the installation has a main earthing system (MES). ESR 73A(1)(e)(iv) makes the person-about-to (re)connect the installation responsible for this. For undergrounding mains; that will be a linesman. However the person doing the job should be aware...