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Towel Rail

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:17 pm
by Sparky59
Hi
With the IP rating on the towel rail, does the IPX4 type marking need to be fixed as in a decal on the unit or is a SDOC separate ok
Normally I see them on wholesaler purchased items but with all sorts of stuff turning up from clients these theories seem to gave gone
Ta

Re: Towel Rail

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 2:29 pm
by AlecK
If installing and/or certifying PEW, it's up to you what you accept as evidence of compliance.

Re: Towel Rail

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:12 pm
by Sparky59
Thanks for that, got the paperwork was just unsure as to whether the rail actually required a label
Ta

Re: Towel Rail

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:17 pm
by DougP
I'm pretty sure that every appliance must have a label stating the rated voltage and power consumption at minimum. It should also have markings for any other rating that are applicable, like double insulation, or IP rating.

Re: Towel Rail

Posted: Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:45 pm
by AlecK
ESR 23 includes a requirement that the voltage be "appropriately and adequately" marked; else it's electrically unsafe.
Anything else would be covered by relevant product standard.

Point being it's not our job to check this stuff.
If it's a DMRA, then there will be an SDoC that states what Standard(s) it complies with, and most of those Standards are listed in Schedule 4.
As installers / certifiers, we don't even have to sight the SDoC.
But if we do, we are entitled to rely on it.

So while I would expect IP ratng to be in the appliance, I wouldn't refuse to install if it was only on the paperwork.

Re: Towel Rail

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:18 pm
by PawPatrol
AlecK wrote:
Mon Jul 27, 2020 5:45 pm
ESR 23 includes a requirement that the voltage be "appropriately and adequately" marked; else it's electrically unsafe.
Anything else would be covered by relevant product standard.

Point being it's not our job to check this stuff.
If it's a DMRA, then there will be an SDoC that states what Standard(s) it complies with, and most of those Standards are listed in Schedule 4.
As installers / certifiers, we don't even have to sight the SDoC.
But if we do, we are entitled to rely on it.

So while I would expect IP ratng to be in the appliance, I wouldn't refuse to install if it was only on the paperwork.
Your right about the ip rating, but if you install somethi g that is deemed to be unsafe, you are liable for it, SDOC or no SDOC.

Re: Towel Rail

Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:38 am
by AlecK
If the item has an SDoC, we can rely on the SDoC [ESR 83(3A)]
An SDoC must include what Standard(s) the product complies with.
If it turns out that it doesn't comply - IP rating, labelling, or anything else - that's not a problem for us as long as we're acting "in good faith".