Signing ESC
Signing ESC
Had an interesting one today, the linemans made the final connection at the pillar, (connecting the N & P) for a new connection but would not sign the sparkies ESC section of his COC for the Mains, he had his own ESC that he signed instead, is this acceptable, should he reference the COC in ESC?
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Re: Signing ESC
You don't have to sign the electricians ESC portion of the COC, nothing wrong with issuing his own ESC
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Re: Signing ESC
ESR 111A allows CoCs and ESCs to be combined.
But it does not require them to be combined.
The person issuing ESC is responsible for sending / keeping copies of it as required;
and the time periods for the two documents are similar but not always identical
So not surprising if they - or their employer's system - want to use their own ESC form and be in control of this part of the process.
A combined CoC / ESC should really only be used where both parts are to be completed by the same person
ie where connection is being done by the certifier.
If using a combined cert where someone else is making final connection; not a good idea to leave an ESC section blank, should be either removed or struck-out.
But it does not require them to be combined.
The person issuing ESC is responsible for sending / keeping copies of it as required;
and the time periods for the two documents are similar but not always identical
So not surprising if they - or their employer's system - want to use their own ESC form and be in control of this part of the process.
A combined CoC / ESC should really only be used where both parts are to be completed by the same person
ie where connection is being done by the certifier.
If using a combined cert where someone else is making final connection; not a good idea to leave an ESC section blank, should be either removed or struck-out.
Re: Signing ESC
On the second question, WRT whether the ESC should include reference to the CoC; this is not required.
Required content of ESC is set in clause 3 of ESR 74A.
The person connecting carries primary responsibility for safety; which is why ESR 73A requires them to sight all relevant CoCs / RoIs, as well as undertaking specified checks and tests.
Basically an ESC amounts to a declaration that the issuer has done everything required by ESR 73A.
There's no requirement to attach CoCs / RoIs, or to list them.
In fact difficult to list in any meaningful way, because they are not required to have a unique ID.
They don't even have a formal right to be given a copy.
However in case of challenge always good to have evidence that you've done the right thing;
so if no copy provided a photo of the documents would be good bum-cover.
What IS required on every ESC is to clearly state whether it covers connection of entire installation, or just specified part(s) of it.
In this case, being related to connection of mains, it has to cover entire installation (as at time of connection.
Making it important to be careful how this section of the ESC is filled in.
Required content of ESC is set in clause 3 of ESR 74A.
The person connecting carries primary responsibility for safety; which is why ESR 73A requires them to sight all relevant CoCs / RoIs, as well as undertaking specified checks and tests.
Basically an ESC amounts to a declaration that the issuer has done everything required by ESR 73A.
There's no requirement to attach CoCs / RoIs, or to list them.
In fact difficult to list in any meaningful way, because they are not required to have a unique ID.
They don't even have a formal right to be given a copy.
However in case of challenge always good to have evidence that you've done the right thing;
so if no copy provided a photo of the documents would be good bum-cover.
What IS required on every ESC is to clearly state whether it covers connection of entire installation, or just specified part(s) of it.
In this case, being related to connection of mains, it has to cover entire installation (as at time of connection.
Making it important to be careful how this section of the ESC is filled in.
- Rating: 16.67%